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December 02, 2009

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That is really scary but thank Buddha he will be ok.

When I drive in Thailand an accident is always in the back of my mind. Ive said it before and it may seem bad but Thai's absolutely cannot drive and should be feared on the road.

To illustrate this point my girl was in a motorcycle accident in a few months ago with another motorcycle. They were both on a deserted road in rural Thailand...how the hell is it possible?

She spent the week in the hospital and arguments ensued over fault. Hopefully you won't get that side of the accident as well.

I've never been involved in a bad accident like this one before Talen. I know they occur regularly out here, but this has really 'woken me up'. The responsibility issue is ongoing, in that, one member of the injured parties family would like us to pay money, although, in the eyes of the police it is open and shut.

Wow - thanks for sharing that story. I can't count how many motorcyclists I've seen lying in the middle of the road bleeding shortly after a major accident. Mostly in Isaan... other places, less. Go figure.

Ben I am so pleased you and the family are OK. Also that it sounds like the third party will pull through.

Thats all I want to say for now as it would seem inappropriate to voice other opinions I have about driving here and more particularly about other road users.

Hope everything pans out OK-chock dee.

Hi Vern, indeed, it is so regular it seems almost normal. It is surely the worst thing about Thailand, it has helped me to make certain decisions, particularly regarding the boys future.

Mike, thank you. I understand. When will / what does it take for Thai people begin to take the roads more seriously?

the U-turn system is SCHEISSE.

I see myself two people die on the street near by a U-turn ...

Thai road rules are horrible and there's atoo much unecessary carnage.
Whenever Thai seem to step on a bike they think they're the only using that particular stretch of raod, with obvious results.

It also seems typical Thai that you need to pay for damage although it's 110% not your fault and there was nothing you could do to avoid it. Strange things.

Following an accident that I was involved in, also not my fault, I was asked the following day in front of Police in a Police Station if I would change my story and accept blame as then my Insurance Co. would cover their costs! They had no insurance. The Policeman stated that this was quite common but "up to you". I declined.


Since the accident I've heard that in Thailand, its sometimes considered the fault of the person who has the bigger vehicle!!!no matter the circumstances.. dont know if there is any truth in that... I probably will give some money, but it depends, as the guy whose pushing for it is getting increasingly aggressive, which fails to work on me... especially as we are not at fault..

Thanks for your comments...

What an unbelievable country where you were not in the wrong and yet you are being aggressively pressed for compensation. Amazing.

I'm glad you, Sutiya and baby are all okay, that's the main thing.

Hi Martyn, judging by some of the stories I have heard we have been very fortunate with everything thus far in terms of the police etc .... We were obviously very lucky to all walk away unscathed... I am also very lucky to have great support from my Thai family here, not sure how it would have played out without them. Thanks for the best wishes...

Ben, Sooooo glad you and wife and the baby are ok , I drive like something could happen at any min , Ihave even stopped playing the radio and music to be sure thaat i am fully alert when driving , I love driving , but I have to say that it is soooo scary driving in Thailand as they do as they please, when it comes to right of ways enough said I could go on for hours , Again am glad you and family are ok. Malcolm

Besides the tragically accident it is very generous and helpfull from you to share this with us.

Thank you,
Ben

Hi Malcolm, I love driving, out on the open road etc, this has definitely shaken me up, reminds me that you can't take any journey for granted.... Thank you for your best wishes.

Thanks Benem.. I wanted to pass on the message... that it's -essential- all Thai road users remain 100% insured, and that everyone should always strap in.... I dread to think what could have happened if Mrs / baby hadn't been properly secure...

Wow... that must have been one scarily shocking fiasco. So many road deaths due to not wearing a helmet it's unbelievable - Thai bikers will never learn. Like delinquent teenagers, they try to break as many traffic laws as possible - it's like it's in their blood.

Ben I have cooled down somewhat since first reading this post.

Regarding money, I know its easy for me to say but I would not pay, let them take me to court. Which of course they wouldn't.

MTF on the other hand would no doubt advise payment but she is Thai and has been brought up in a different culture to me where right and wrong don't seem to count for much.

Of course this is Thailand and we are "rich farang" living in their country and things are not always sorted out through legal channels.

Just a practical question now, did the insurance company attend the scene? I have been told we should call them before the police. Although in all fairness the police sounded OK.

Hi Mike, the insurance company took a look at the car at the police stn. With the input of the cops they didn't put up an arguement. The damage to the car was evidence itself (right down the drivers front side). Like I say from the stories I've heard since it sounds like we've been lucky, but the cops were spot on in this case, right from the start...

Ben, Sorry to hear of the accident, im sure its been a difficult time. But Aidens all safe and the cyclist is still with us and making a recovery. Whether it was God, Budha or just plain luck, things could have turned out a whole lot worse.

Yeah you're exactly right Justin... Very grateful for that...

Tried to comment on the "Crash aftermath" post but it seems to have disappeared! Sorry about your accident. I'm wondering if since you're being asked to contribute something whether the same request would have been made to a Thai driver - who incidentally would probably have fled the scene anyway.

The danger you have of contributing something in this instance for his recovery - even in good faith - is that the courts could establish later that this is an admission of guilt. Let's imagine you pay something and the old guy dies in a month or two. You could open yourself up to a considerably larger claim. The police will go wherever the money is.

The fact is, the old man should have had insurance and he should have taken care. If not, he shouldn't have been on the roads.

Thanks Leosia, that's an important point that I had not considered. I have to attend the Police Stn soon to put all this officially behind us and will bear that in mind, so thank you.

Ben, I think it was very brave of you to post this story. I'm sure all the support expressed here has been a help to you and as you say the police too have been very supportive, which is good to hear and goes against the stereotype.

I'm glad the old man is as OK as can be expected. I hope the whole business gets wrapped up soon and you can put it all behind you.

Thanks Lawrence... The saga continues! Doesnt look like this will be wrapped up as soon as I'd like.. Will possibly blog about soon ...

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